December 26, 2004

A sort-of KotOR 2 FAQ

Over the last few weeks, I've had an explosion of hits for this little blog. Now, these aren't due to anything I've written or any witty observations I might have had. No, these are hits from people looking for tips on KotOR 2. I figured, since no walkthroughs are up yet, I'd answer some questions that bring people here.

How do you find the silver/red/cyan/whatever lightsaber crystal?
No idea on this one. Most of the stuff available in The Sith Lords is random. This means where you might find a lightsaber crystal (the Duros shopkeeper on Citadel Station, the sick man on Nar Shadaa), it's unpredictable what color it might be. In fact, Geriel the sick guy could also give you a power crystal. If you desperately need a particular color, save a game before accessing the Duros' inventory, then just reload until you get what you want.

The same story for Jedi Robes. Plus, the only way to get Master Robes is to kill a Master.

Can I get my original lightsaber back?
Nope. Atris has it, and kill her as often as you like, she never gives it back.

How do I turn the Handmaiden into a Jedi?
This one is easy. You need to build up influence. The best way to do this is to beat her in the three training duels. At that point you can talk to Kriea, and she will tell you that Handmaiden's mother was a Jedi in the Mandalorian Wars. Alternately, you can ask HM if she'll put clothes on. After the second or third time, she'll put on some Jedi robes, and introduce her mother's story there as well.

How do I turn Mira into a Jedi?
This one is even easier. Build up some influence, and take her back to Nar Shadaa. You should have the option to talk to her about how she seems more comfortable there than on the ship. If you have sufficient influence, you can take her to the spot Kriea shows you the "flow" of the planet. At that point you can train her as well.

How do I turn Atton into a Jedi?
If you have enough influence, and get through his rather ugly story, he'll ask you too.

How do I turn Bao-Dur into a Jedi?
This one is pretty easy too. You'll need to get enough influence again. This time, it isn't much, as 3 gains will do it. At that point Bao-Dur will talk about his anger decreasing (if you'r LS) or increasing (if your DS). At that point you have the option of training him.

How do I turn Hanharr or Mandalore into a Jedi
You can't. Neither of them are Force Sensitives.

Who and How do I romance in KotOR 2?
If playing as a male character you have options with the Handmaiden and Visas Marr. If female, you have the option for Atton, the Disciple, and Visas as well. None of the romance is very detailed or deep. It never goes beyond the "I'll follow you" stage. There is some jealousy between HM and Visas and Atton and the Disciple, but nothing much. You can't start a romance with Mira. The missed opportunity is with Atton, as he's clearly gay. I don't mean that in a derogatory manner, I mean Atton is a homosexual. He's got really nice hair, past problems with women, and an unnatural need to comment on the physical appearance of a male PC. He even gets catty with the Handmaiden when she shows interest in the PC. C'mon Lucasarts, let Atton out of the closet.

What KotOR 1 characters are in the sequel?
Not much. HK, T3 and Canderous (as Mandalore) are available for your party. If playing as LS character Carth will appear as a Republic Admiral. If you said Revan was DS, then the Sith Holocron in what was Master Uthar's room will show a recording of Bastila. Alternately, if Revan was a LS male, Bastila will have a quick cameo at the end, and also appear in T3's message. Jolee is briefly mentioned, but no Zaalbar, Mission or Juhani. And don't even think of such non-NPCs like Dustil, or Yuthura. Master Vandar is believed dead, but Vrook plays a big part.

How do I influence {insert name here}?
There are thousands of ways. The easiest is when you have the opportunity to thank them or take their suggestion, do it. Beyond that, it's a general rule of thumb that characters who start out LS like when you are a nice PC, and DS ones like when you're nasty. Beyond that, you can always check this out, a very nice guide put together by the posters at Obsidian.

Where do I find {insert NPC here}?
Okay, in order... sorta.
Kriea-first met in the Peragus medical bay morgue, and will join your party after Sion first appears.
Atton-first seen in the Peragus jail, will join right after Kreia does.
T3-first communicated with at the Peragus Administration console. Will be unavailable more than once until after Telos.
Bao-Dur-the surface of Telos.
Handmaiden (Male PC only)-will sneak aboard the Ebon Hawk as you leave Telos.
Visas-assuming you have established DS or LS, she and her master will have a cutscene while you are on Telos. She will be waiting for you in the Ebon Hawk, appearing the first time you return to the Hawk on your first planet.
HK47-You'll meet several HK50 droids. Kill them and you'll get a repair part from each group. You will also have to buy a piece, either from the droid junk dealers on Nar Shadaa or Dantooine.

At this point, when you get particular characters depends on what order you hit the planets.
On Dantooine, you can find the Disciple in the ruins of the Jedi Temple. If your a female PC, he'll join your party.
On Nar Shadaa, Mira will shadow you until you're invited to a meeting at the alien bar called the Jekk'Jekk Tar. She'll join you, in a sense, at that point. This is only if you're a LS character. If you're DS, you get the Wookie Hanharr at about the same point.
G0-T0 is found at the very end of Nar Shadaa. Aboard Goto's yacht, imagine that.
On Dxun, you will need to prove yourself to Mandalore. If you do, he'll join your party and give you transportation to Onderon.

Does it matter if I'm LS or DS when it comes to making my NPCs Jedi?
No, you just have to have enough influence. Going DS does cost you a potential Jedi in Mira, but HM, Atton, Bao-Dur and the Disciple can be convinced to go to the Sith route. What's wierd is the game doesn't always recognize that a NPC is now DS. For instance, if you have a DS Handmaiden, she'll still get upset (and you'll lose influence) if you go slaughtering innocents.

How do I beat the Mystery Sith?
It isn't difficult. The only hard part is the three floating lightsabers. The trick is to attack each saber individually. Don't go after Darth Mystery, as she'll dodge, and the sabers will cut you to pieces.

Posted by Frinklin at December 26, 2004 10:55 PM

where can i get a lens

Posted by: nick at December 28, 2004 04:28 PM


I'm not nearly the expert Frinklin is, but I think the best way to get lenses is to create them at a workbench. You can also buy some from one of the scavengers on Dantooine.


Thanks for this. I’m just about to start a second game (dark-side female this time around), and this will help tremendously in the absence of a real FAQ.

Posted by: Richard at December 28, 2004 04:48 PM

It depends on if you need an enhancement lens, which can be built at the workbench. If you need your original lens to create your first lightsaber, you can get that by solving a couple different quests on Nar Shadaa: the refugee woman who has lost her husband, or lessoning the pressure on the refugees from the Exchange and the mercs.

Posted by: Frinklin at December 28, 2004 11:32 PM

What is the code for the robot on Nar Shadaa when you're forced to choose between clockwise, counterclockwise, etc.?

Posted by: samy at December 31, 2004 07:52 PM

This would be using T3 in the Hutt's droid warehouse? Haven't a clue what the code is, I just bash the damn thing. Doesn't cost you anything, and it's way easier than logic puzzles.

Posted by: frinklin at January 1, 2005 03:14 AM

I am not the onlyone in 2005 that needs help with the warehouse code please IM me back or just send me the answer in the mail if you know thanks.

Posted by: Donnie at January 1, 2005 03:43 AM

the clockwise and counterclockwise thing is randomized each time, so it is different every time u try, just match the top with the bottom

Posted by: Redian at January 1, 2005 12:57 PM

on nar shadaa how do i find the jedi

Posted by: Josh at January 1, 2005 03:52 PM

Kaz whatsisname finds you. Just finish the level. Once you're invited to the JekkJekk Tarr, everything is in motion.

Posted by: frinklin at January 1, 2005 05:28 PM

what do i do on nar shaddaa

Posted by: Josh at January 1, 2005 05:46 PM

Umm.. okay, there is a lot to do. First head to the Refugee Commons. there are several sidequests to do (this will also get you your Lightsaber if you don't already have one). Once you're done there, head to the entertainment district and the docks, a couple more sidequests there.

What it boils down to is this: just keep doing sidequests until the Exchange invites you to the JekkJekk Tarr bar. Once you get that, you're on the way to the end of the level.

Posted by: frinklin at January 1, 2005 05:51 PM


Posted by: Josh at January 1, 2005 05:53 PM

I have serched evey square inch of the ship cannot find the last bomb thing and i don't know how to make one I've defeated everyone including Nilus and I'm stuck

Posted by: jon at January 1, 2005 06:47 PM

How do I get of the sith ship with Darth Nilus?

Posted by: adam at January 1, 2005 06:48 PM

on nar shadaa how do you kill goto

Posted by: Josh at January 1, 2005 07:32 PM

korriban, not orriban, sorry =)

Posted by: CLYDE at January 1, 2005 08:14 PM

Okay, in order:

Jon: You need to make the last proton charge. In the room with the workbench there is a missile in storage. You need to get that out, and use it to make a new charge. It seems difficult, but it isn't.

Adam: It depends on what you have and haven't done. If you've set all the proton charges and killed Darth Nihili-howeveryouspellit, head to the shuttle and you're off. If you haven't set the charges and killed Nihilis, you can't leave.

Josh: You don't kill GOTO, in fact he joins your party. Sorta... Anyway, you need to run all over Goto's ship, finding the programs to upload in his computer. Once you do that you'll kill the power to his cloaking device and the clamps on the Ebon Hawk. At that point all hell breaks loose and you head back to the ship.

Clyde: HUH?

Posted by: frinklin at January 1, 2005 09:42 PM

How exactly do you make the fourth charge or whatever you have to do becuase it says that you are supposed to find an override console and ive been all over the ship and i cant find that?? and ive done the dialouge with the charge but it says that i cannot remove the charge without the override console and i cant leave the ship until after i do this

Posted by: ryan at January 2, 2005 08:56 AM

where do i find the program for the power

Posted by: Josh at January 2, 2005 02:14 PM

on korriban how do i get the door to master uthars room to open

Posted by: Josh at January 3, 2005 06:59 PM

Anybody know how to kill Darth "Mystery Woman" (I dont want to spoil it). I've defeated her the first time but then she pulls out 3 floating light sabers and they chop me to pieces. I tried attacking them 1 at a time but the other sabers attack me anyway. I also tried the "save and load" 'cheat', and that doesnt work. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Kevin at January 3, 2005 07:44 PM

Josh: Master Uthar's room can only be opened with Thorium charges. They're available in either the library or training room. If you're LS you will destroy the holocron inside. If your DS, it's pretty cool.

Kevin: The three Lightsabers is probably the toughest fight in the game. Use Verpine Prototype shields. You should have about a half-dozen from Malachor alone. Attack each individually. The Verp shields should keep you alive.

Ryan: I'm assuming that you're aboard the Ravager. The computer you need is on the other side of the room. Activate it and that will unlock the proton core. From there it's a snap, and that includes the fight with Nihilus.

Posted by: frinklin at January 3, 2005 09:57 PM


Just run away from the sabers and attack Darth Mystery before the lightsabres catch up with you.. it's very easy. Cheers.

Posted by: nemojoe at January 5, 2005 05:44 PM

yeah, i've been stuck in the visquis' secret layer for days and i cant figure out how to get out. i've talked to kreia and hanharr as much as possible but i still can't do anything. how the hell do i move on.

Posted by: Marc at January 5, 2005 07:37 PM

Making fun of portugal isnt cool.... I guarentee your English if you are doing this.

Posted by: Dan at January 6, 2005 12:27 AM


Wrong! I can assure you, Frinklin is NOT English. He's not actually making fun of Portugal, he's quoting someone ELSE making fun of Portugal. Who is also not English. I'm afraid your theory doesn't hold up.

Posted by: ensie at January 6, 2005 10:00 PM

how do I turn atton to a jedi

Posted by: sage at January 8, 2005 04:17 PM

Marc: Sorry, but I wasn't DS enough to get Hanharr, I only know what to do with Mira.

Sage: Easy... build influence with Atton, and he will ask you to train him.

Posted by: frinklin at January 8, 2005 06:52 PM

I'm not dark side at all, i'm actually as light as possible. but anyway, hanharr isn't part of my group, he's just standing next to kreia. and they're the only two people i can talk to and i cant control anybody else. i wonder if maybe its a bug in the game.

Posted by: Marc at January 8, 2005 07:03 PM

Yep, that sounds like a bug. After Kriea revives Hanharr it should switch to a different cutscene. Hope you've got a prior save.

Posted by: frinklin at January 8, 2005 09:10 PM

on dan something how do you find hard proof against Zherron

Posted by: Sage at January 9, 2005 10:46 AM

Hey I finally defeated everyone on Goto's Yacht, and i put everything on secondary power. Now that i've done that, nothing else will happen! What do i do!?

Posted by: Zach at January 9, 2005 03:41 PM

Sage: You need to find the atmospheric sensors in the Crystal Cave, and have Bao-Dur check them out. If you've already sold them, you're out of luck. It doesn't really matter though, as Zherron does turn out to be a good guy (if you're LS) and you don't really need him if you're DS.

Zach: You need to find the program that unlocks the power access in the computer. I usually forget this one too. I think it's in a crate inside the room you were held prisoner in.

Posted by: frinklin at January 9, 2005 05:30 PM

Thanks frinklin - you're my hero man. I'll go and try it out.

Posted by: Zach at January 9, 2005 06:28 PM

after you turn HM into a jedi, you go to polar region of telos...

there's no one there...

what do you do?

Posted by: hm at January 10, 2005 10:30 AM

I am completely stuck. In Nar Shadda, I have been invited to the Jekk'Jekk Tar, and have had my first "meeting" with him, but now I have to go in and rescue Mira or somesuch. My problem lies in the fact that I can't even find the place! I can see a suspicious hallway in the west side of the Docks area, but both doors leading to it won't open- they aren't locked, or broken, I can't even target them. It's as if they're just part of a regular wall. I have searched everywhere on the planet and I'm not allowed to get back on my ship either. Hopefully I'm just dense and this isn't a game-ending glitch or something.

Posted by: Adam at January 10, 2005 01:02 PM

HM: When are you? Did you just turn HM into a jedi (usually about halfway through your second planet after Telos) or are you at the end. Nothing happens with Telos until after the Council at Dantooine. If you haven't hit that, get off Telos. If you've had the Coucil already, you may have a glitch. Glitch-free games get a HM-Atris fight at this point.

Adam: The JekkJek Tar door is kitty-corner from Vogga's door. It should be open, with no guards. You can't open it, just walk through and it will trigger a short cutscene.

Posted by: frinklin at January 10, 2005 05:37 PM

frinklin thanks for your help

nar shadaa was my last regular planet. I spoke to HM inside the ebon hawk and had her become a jedi. then the cinematic comes out wiht kreia saying "so in ends..." and then "::betrayal::"

after she says betrayal, my main character is back in front of atris' meditation chamber in telos.

the things is there is no one there...
no one shows up to attack, nothing to collect..
no control console, etc...

i can't even get back inside the ebon hawk...

that's where i'm stuck..

i reloaded the game so that i took a different path and HM is not a jedi in my current game..
i went straight to dantooine to meet the council..

after that..

in the reloaded game HM fought atris as herself not a jedi...

i was just wondering if there was a bug if one were to convert HM to a jedi after/right before meeting witht he council..

Posted by: HM at January 11, 2005 06:22 AM

How do u open the door on Nar Shadar when u r the droid. Somthing about turning handles or something

Posted by: Justin at January 11, 2005 11:11 AM

whats the combination on korriban to the training room

Posted by: Trav at January 11, 2005 01:46 PM

Justin: The combination is randomized. There is no set answer. Just bash the damned thing.

Trav: Do you need to get it or get out?

HM: Yep, that sounds like a bug.

Posted by: frinklin at January 11, 2005 02:02 PM

I was all proud of myself for figuring out how to beat Sion, now the female character in the next showdown is kicking my butt. I read above where there's 3 lightsabers floating -- I can't even get that far. Any tips against her?

Posted by: Jim at January 12, 2005 01:25 PM

Thanks for the info on turning NPC's into Jedi. Would someone email me the answer to this question...

Do you have to be a Jedi Master to train others into Jedi or can a Watchman or Weapons Master train the NPC's as well?

Thanks a lot! :)

Posted by: dave at January 12, 2005 02:36 PM

Jim: Well, she does have an enormous amount of VP, so it takes some doing. If you're LS, use Force Enlightenment (assuming you were smart and invested in Master Speed, Valor and Barrier). You can use a lot of stims to get the same effect. If you're DS, go with Force Crush. She'll be able to resist it someitimes, but it will do massive damage. You should have at least 3 dozen Life Support packs-use them from the equip menu.

Dave: You don't need any of the prestige classes to turn an NPC to Jedi. I switched Atton as a level-12 Sentinel.

Posted by: frinklin at January 12, 2005 05:47 PM

i am stuck on the bit when you are o0n the way to fight darth soin(i think) the bold one with all the scares. and on the way i get attcked by millions of sith people and they kill me because i am by myself. s there any way of survival???????/

Posted by: Tom at January 15, 2005 11:49 AM

also how do you become a jedi master i dont understand the difference sorry.

Posted by: Tom at January 15, 2005 11:50 AM

Tom-You get your prestige class at level 15. You need to be 75% light or dark and have Visas in your party. At that point, talk to Kriea and she will tell you that "You feel it" you tell her that Visas' master (Darth Freaky Mask Guy) can feel you in the force.

As for the Trayus academy-If your LS- you should have Enlightenment- use it. If you leveled up well you should have Master Speed, Valor and Armor. You're very, very difficult to kill at that point. If you don't-use stims and Mandalorian Power Shields (that will help you against all attacks) or Verpine Prototype Sheilds (that will help you against energy and Lightsaber attacks. The assasins die pretty easy, concentrate on the Maruaders and Sith Masters.

Posted by: frinklin at January 15, 2005 01:36 PM

I'm stuck on the ship still. I can't get off Peragus. I've been to every computer and been avery place twice...what am i missing

Posted by: chris at January 16, 2005 10:24 AM

How do I open up the random door in the nar shadda docks

Posted by: don at January 16, 2005 10:39 AM

im on nar shadda and have already been to jjt, and have killed all the exchange, when i wake up from mira's poison and the jedi invites me to join him at jjt, i go to both doors and they do no allow me to target them. i only have recent saves on nar shadda, do i have to start over because of this glitch?

Posted by: eric b at January 16, 2005 01:53 PM

Chris-You're still on Peragus? Where... if you're on a ship, that would be the Harbinger. You need to do 3 things there: 1-get the navicomputer info from the bridge, 2-head to the engine level, triggering Darth Sion's appearance, 3-find the door to unlock the engine room. When you're done with that you will had through the fuel line back on the station. From there you can get into the Hawk.

Don-What random door?

Eric- Okay... there are some nonexistant doors on the NS docks. Find the third pylon. The JJT entrance is there- it is already open, since Mira went through it. Find the open door and just walk in. That will trigger a cutscene.

Posted by: frinklin at January 17, 2005 10:43 AM

1st things 1st frinkin you are great!!!!!. I thank you lots, also it is kinda freaky in a good way that you knoiw so much about this game. I have startes KOTOR 2 again to do all the secerets, i am not asking you to list them all because that is unfair, but i would appreciate it if you could give me a link to a site which did thancks again. Tom

Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2005 01:33 PM

sorry i have done it again i remembered a question after...... anyway. On Nar shadar there is a room with that fat ugly slug hut thing, with 2 cath hounds either side. their is a door in there and when you approch it the kath hounds bark at you so you cannot get near it. but in the corner of the room is the kath hounds feeding bowl which gives you a choice of things to do to it. Unfortunatly i dont have the option to poisen them or whatever.; Any info?????????????

Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2005 01:36 PM

Tom-Thanks, it's no problem. And yes, my wife would agree that I'm kinda freaky. Anyway.. you can always check out the GameFAQS Page for KotOR 2- there are a couple incomplete walkthroughs there-DSimpsons is the best.

Posted by: frinklin at January 17, 2005 01:52 PM

As for the Kath Hounds-this one takes a little doing. First, head over to the flophouses. The first one there is a couple Thugs there, and if you come close to them they just tell you "you thought you could sneak up on us!" and that is it. That's a big hint. Use Stealth to come into the room, and it will switch to a cutscene about Vogga's treasure, and how Kath Hounds can be put to sleep with Juma Juice. After you get that info, head back to the cantina and buy it from the bartender. It will cost you 100 credits. Then go speak to the Twi'lek who is running the dance auditions. If you're female Exile you can dance for Vogga; if male you can convince Mira or Handmaiden to do it. After you dance, Vogga will fall alseep. Slip the Juma into the water bowls, and use Security to sneak into his treasure house.

Do this sidequest-there is a lightsaber (if you already have one) or a lightsaber part (if you don't have your own yet). It randomizes, sometimes you can get a Doublesaber or shortsaber instead.

Posted by: frinklin at January 17, 2005 01:55 PM

thanx a lot mate. have you any info on the secret door in the hutts place. i dont quite know how you posted that so fast but boy are you good. I didnt know if you were male or female so soz. may i askhow many times have you compleated it and how many hours have you spent on it . contact me via this msn messenger or email thanx Tom

Posted by: Tom at January 17, 2005 01:57 PM

you are the bomob diggity...thanks sooooo much!

Posted by: eric b at January 17, 2005 08:57 PM

Dear Sirs,

I'm sorry to bother, but I need some
sympathy. I'm from Sweden (country far up
in the north of Europe) and the release for
KOTOR2 is set to the 11'th of february here.



Posted by: Dave at January 17, 2005 09:12 PM

Yo dave i live in england and i have the game, the best way is to get your xbox chipped and download the games. It has saved me thousands.

Posted by: Tom at January 18, 2005 05:17 AM

I have a question about the Handmaiden. I'm LS, and I built up quick influence with Visas, which apparently ticked the HM off. I only got to train with her once, and for quite a while now (went through Nar Shadaa, Onderan/Dxun, and Dantooine) the only thing she'll say to me when I try to talk to her is "Leave me alone, we have nothing to discuss."

Is this normal? Since she's been saying that, I've been able to increase influence with her (through good deeds), but she still won't talk.

Posted by: Matt at January 20, 2005 03:05 PM

Ah, one more question. On Nar Shaadaa, I made the mistake of simply talking to the squid-head Exchange guy in the refugee sector and convincing him to give the refugees more room. Now, I can't complete the "reunion" quest (I think) because the exchange isn't cleared out. Do I have to kill this guy and all his thugs, or is there something I'm missing?


Posted by: Matt at January 20, 2005 03:09 PM

Matt-You do have some problems with the Handmaiden at this point. It's always a good idea to get some influence with her before maxing out Visas. Now you're close to done. You need to find a point in the game where you can get influence with her. I don't know if you do. All you have left is Korriban,right? Yeah... I think you're screwed.

As for the Reunion quest- killing Saquesh isn't neccessary,but you do have to kill the two exchange guards at the entrance to the Refugee quad. Problem is, you can't do that at any point after the first time you see them. If you send Aida out now, they'll kill her and you'll end up with a lot of DS points.

You're kinda screwed on both then.

Posted by: frinklin at January 20, 2005 07:29 PM

I've been stuck on Goto's ship for hours and I can't figure out what to do! I've killed everyone, i've got the "overload" program and the "Reset" program and I've unlocked all the containment cells, mines, etc. etc." with the passcodes. Everytime I try to reset or overload the main power conduit or whatever, it says "failure" !! I don't know what do do next, and how to open the doors to the ebon hawk! PLZ HELP ME!

Posted by: CC at January 20, 2005 08:50 PM

CC-You're missing the "Shutdown" program. That is the only one that will work on the yacht's power supply. I think (if I remember correctly) it's found in one of the dead droids, possibly in the containment cells.

Posted by: frinklin at January 20, 2005 09:56 PM

Its me again sorry. I started again and i am trying to get mira and atton to become jedi, i have got loads of influence but i never get the choice to train them? Also i read that there is a sppeder that can be repaired over and over agian to get infinate experance, i thinks it is the one in the gangs camp os tha the correct one or is it even a real cheat.

Posted by: Tom at January 21, 2005 08:39 AM

Tom-When it comes to turning Mira and Atton, it's really easy with both. You need 3-4 levels of influence. Atton will tell you about his rather dark past, and if you have enough influence, he will ask you to train him. You do need to have gone through Nar Shadaa though, that is where you'll learn he isn't what he seems. If you need influence with Atton, don't call him a liar. You have two chances to that with him, and if you do, you'll lose a lot of influence.

Mira's even easier. You'll need influence obviously, and when you have enough you can take her to the spot on Nar Shadaa (just outside the Entertainment district) and show her the "real" Nar Shadaa. Mira's also the only one who will thank you for making her a Jedi.

Posted by: frinklin at January 21, 2005 10:08 AM

Sorry Frinklin but i made a mistake it was the HM i cannot get enough influence because i have been through all the conversations 1000 times???????

Posted by: Tom at January 22, 2005 05:08 AM

oh sorry again but i do i need to be a certain way through the game e.g. do i have to of found 3 masters????

Posted by: Tom at January 22, 2005 05:11 AM

Tom-You can do the order of planets any way you want. I think it's a good idea to do Nar Shadaa first, since its pretty easy to get your lightsaber and you pick up 2 (3 if you trigger Visas) NPCs.

As for the HM- getting influence with her is pretty easy. You need to defeat her in the three training duels. If she won't talk to you (probably because you're DS or you've chatted up Visas too much) you'll need to find a in-game moment to get influence with her. She only has a couple that I can think off of the top of my head 1-Nar Shadaa- heal Geriel he sick guy in the refugee quarter, 2-Dantooine-refuse to help Azkul the mercenary, 3-Onderon-giving a starport Visas to Terlyn the widow. With a little influence there, you can re-unlock the conversations.

Posted by: frinklin at January 22, 2005 09:40 AM

Nar Shadaa:
I've defeated the villians who have invaded the ebon hawk, paid off the mouse creature outside the cantina, but still no meeting with the exhcange? What do I do now?

Posted by: Trevor at January 22, 2005 11:29 AM

i cannnot fight her again in battle the Hm i mean she said i am not ready

Posted by: Tom at January 22, 2005 11:45 AM

Trevor-You need to continue doing sidequests. The exchange will invite you to the Jekk Jekk Tarr after you've done enough to hurt them or help them. If you need more sidequests there are several to be done in the refugee quad, you can settle the swoop bike droid quest, take care of the pazaak playing droid in the pazaak den, the bith tracking signals in the docks. Just do enough and you'll get the call.

Tom-Well, how much influence do you have? If she's just saying your not ready, then keep going. Once you both level up (I'm not sure on the specifics, but I think it has something to do with HM's Echani Strike feats). Oh, and I'm not sure about this, but I think she has to be in your party sometimes, so she can fight with you. I can't confirm that though.

Posted by: frinklin at January 22, 2005 12:38 PM

I think that Handmaiden becoming angry with you is caused by a conversation you have with Kreia:

After Visas has joined your party, Kreia will tell you "do not mate with her." If you say something that implies that you are or might be interested in Visas romantically, then Handmaiden will find out (I heard there was a scene where Kreia tells her a secret) and will not want to talk to you anymore.

So if you are interested in Visas, then it's best to max out Handmaiden as quickly as possible.

I have only played as a female, but this is what I heard.

Posted by: theswordmaiden at January 22, 2005 03:08 PM

Huh.. I had not heard that before. Interesting... I try to keep my influence with HM and Visas pretty even. I'll have to try that out.

Posted by: frinklin at January 22, 2005 04:29 PM

how many times have you compleated star wars

Posted by: Tom at January 23, 2005 08:38 AM

This game? Twice. I finished KotOR 1 about 6-8 times.

Posted by: frinklin at January 23, 2005 11:02 AM

Whats up, yo im having a problem on the part u have to battle vrook i dont know what to do after keria talks to me

Posted by: SCG28 at January 27, 2005 08:52 PM

It depends- is Vrook the last Master that you've faced? If he is, Kriea should tell you what to do.

Posted by: frinklin at January 28, 2005 08:21 AM

CC you dot to star goto's ship over it's on the driod you first come to.

Posted by: Matt L at January 29, 2005 04:30 AM

sorry ment you have to start over on goto's ship

Posted by: Matt L at January 29, 2005 04:31 AM

hey man i have 2 questions
1) how/where do i get force crush ive played the game as ds and ls and beaten everything
2) i dont have enought influence w/ mira to turn her into a jedi im ds and i gained influnce with her on dxun with the duros bounty hunters and on onderon with the girl who hires me to kill the 3 officers any help would be appreciated and i have a cheat on how to unlimited lightsabers but u have to already have one and not yet completed dantooine

Posted by: Sean R at February 8, 2005 01:45 PM

1-You don't get force crush until very near the end of the game. As long as your DS (and I think you need a Prestige Class, but don't quote me), you'll earn it automatically. Which is good, because as much fun as Crush is, its so overpowered it gets old.

2-Mira doesn't have a whole lot of oppurtunities. You need to be able to make an awareness check of about 12-14. Talk to her about her history and she will talk about being a bounty hunter. There is an line about everything being part of the force and searching because she can't find her own family. She'll get mad at you for saying it, but you'll get influence. You'll also get influence the next time you talk to her if you apologize. Just to warn you-you WILL get LS points for this coversation.

Posted by: frinklin at February 8, 2005 03:18 PM

if u want the unlimited lightsabers cheat email me i really dont want to post it thanx for the heads up

Posted by: sean r at February 8, 2005 04:26 PM

Umm did anyone else find this game incredibly easy... I mean ya the game was great but the difficulty kinda stunk. My main character was unbeatable. I just stuck some armor on him with 15 defense a mask with 3 defense Leveled up heal and then gave him two normal sabers. He was litteraly unstopable. I mean Sion was a joke and then the Final Female Jedi was even easier. I dont think I even Had to reload my game once on account of dying. Ya sure the other crappy characters died all the time. But my main char was like Jedi-God. anywho I just wish the game was a little harder but other than that the story was awsome

Posted by: Michael at February 15, 2005 03:45 AM

in nar shadaar warehouse you said just bash it but nothing like a bash button on the screen how could you help me

Posted by: Nero at February 17, 2005 07:51 AM

to nero on your little toolbar at the bottom of the screenselect the left icon i think it is use or open or something like that and scroll till you find bash and bash away

Posted by: Sean R at February 17, 2005 03:21 PM the hutts warehouse on nar shaadaa or do I open that f****r?

Posted by: Darth Göran Persson at February 22, 2005 05:47 AM

hi. Love the game but I cant seem to get an invitation to jjt. Its driving me mad and I have done all the sidequests available. I havent met Mira either just seen the cutscen between her and Hannarr. Help please. And dont tell me its a glitch, because this was one of my first planets and I ve done Dantoine and Korriban after giving up on NarShadaa. Thanks.

Joey (Sweden)

Posted by: Joey at February 23, 2005 05:52 AM

how do you open the ancient lockers in Dxun in the tomb

Posted by: John at February 23, 2005 02:32 PM

Haven't done this in a while...

DGP=Getting in to Vogga's warehouse is a chore: First, head over to the flophouses. The first one there has a couple Thugs there, and if you come close to them they just tell you "you thought you could sneak up on us!" and that is it. That's a big hint. Use Stealth to come into the room, and it will switch to a cutscene about Vogga's treasure, and how Kath Hounds can be put to sleep with Juma Juice. After you get that info, head back to the cantina and buy it from the bartender. It will cost you 100 credits. Then go speak to the Twi'lek who is running the dance auditions. If you're female Exile you can dance for Vogga; if male you can convince Mira or Handmaiden to do it. After you dance, Vogga will fall alseep. Slip the Juma into the water bowls, and use Security to sneak into his treasure house.

Just keep going... there are dozens of sidequests, and just about all of them do something to get the Exchange's notice. If you've completed the Refugee Quad stuff, head on over to the docks. There are two really easy quests for Fassa the Dockmaster. You'll get a nice reward too. You should also breeze through the swoop race quest and the Geeda/Oondar quest. Visit Geeda (rodian merchant in the main square) then go talk to Oondar (duros merchant across the way)

You also have to complete the Red Eclipse Slavers to trigger the JJT invite too.

The math one is a bit glitched. There are two answers that work, and the game seems to randomly choose which one it wants.

Try (6 * 2) - 8 + 9 * 1 = 13
(6 * 2) - 8 + 9 / 1 = 13
The other one is C-EBA

Posted by: frinklin at February 23, 2005 07:42 PM

I need help finding HK-47's assassin droid rifle. Can any one help me out? I also want someone to talk to who shares my love of all STARWARS stuff. You can e-mail me at:

And yes it is spelled "roks" its not a typo!!!

Thanks for hearing me out. its 4:45 AM right now so nobody is proboly on right now. I'll check in again at 10:00 Am and randomly throughout the day. Thanks again for reading my e-mail.

HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease HelpPlease

My real name is Jay but I preferred to be called HK-47... and before you ask, no I dont get out much. Bye!!!

Posted by: (HK~47) aka Jay at February 26, 2005 02:54 AM

Mira's the hottest chick in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: (HK~47) aka Jay at February 26, 2005 02:58 AM

Sorry to dissapoint you, but there is no set way to get most items, as they are randomized. I'm not sure HK's assasin droid rifle even made the final product, as it was supposed to be included in the HK Factory sidequest.

If you have the PC Version, you can always head to StarWarsKnights and pick up the Kotor Savegame Editor (KSE) which will allow you to modify your current saves and add it to your inventory.

Again, I'm not even sure the assasin droid rifle is even in the game.

Posted by: frinklin at February 26, 2005 04:52 PM

thanks for the help frinklin. ill ask if i have more questions

Posted by: (HK~47) aka Jay at February 28, 2005 02:22 PM

how do i defeat the datrh (mysary woman) at the end of the game.
those floating lightsabers screwed me up
plz someone help

Posted by: nick p at March 4, 2005 05:59 PM

It isn't difficult. The only hard part is the three floating lightsabers. The trick is to attack each saber individually. Don't go after Darth Mystery, as she'll dodge, and the sabers will cut you to pieces.

Posted by: frinklin at March 4, 2005 11:30 PM

Atton - Jedi Sentinel

I've read something about turning atton into a Jedi.. Here's a tip.. when you get to the polar region on telos inside the handmaiden sister's academy (or whatever it's called) make sure you talk to one of the sisters to tell you that atton droped into an enchani stance or you get no trigger for atton's jedi training.. anyway I find him the weakest and the most useless character in the game

Posted by: Pixus at March 7, 2005 08:04 AM

you dint need to become prisiege for force crush

Posted by: Me at March 10, 2005 02:51 PM

In the Trayus Academy Proving Grounds if you look at your map you can see a map note that says "West Cells" and another that says "Meditation Chamber" both are off of the map how do you get to them? Or do they just denote places on the map but aren't on top of them?

Posted by: Tocs at March 12, 2005 07:18 PM

I've always heard that the exile meets Bastila near the end of the game, what happens? and how does it happen?

Posted by: jedi at March 13, 2005 11:57 AM

Tocs-They are on the map, you just haven't found the door yet. Keep looking

Jedi-Bastila has a couple of possible cameos, but never actually meets the Exile. She will appear if:
-You told Atton that Revan was a LS Male. She'll appear in T3M4's hologram and when Carth meets the exile after the Ravager.
-You told Atton that Revan was a DS Male. She'll again be in T3M4's holo and again in the Korriban Holocron.

Posted by: frinklin at March 13, 2005 12:43 PM

1) To anyone future: the best way to beat the lightsabers is to be a LS Guardian/Weaponmaster with a powerful saber and high STR (with awesome equips i had 38 i think). I killed each saber in about 2 hits, though i used about 5 Life Support packs to survive.

2)Tip for Twin Suns with Atton: mines. Lot's of em. In fact, practically any enemy you can't beat (except final boss) can be beaten by getting away and setting 3-10 mines (depending on Strength of the mines). This let me kill the Twin Suns in 1 shot.

Question: is there any way to get HK-47 in the warehouse? I was able to repair him before I got the quest in Vogga's warehouse, and had heard that you can use HK-47 in there, but so far i haven't seen it.

Thanks in advance


P.S.:yes, i just found this forum, and if anyone else has questions i've beaten the game with DS Female, LS Female, and LS Male (three times...what can I say, I love LS Guardians).

Posted by: TK at March 15, 2005 08:55 PM

I have been having trouble unlocking the navicomputer on the Ebon Hawk. The first time I played the game I somehow unlocked it but now I have no clue what I did.

Posted by: Chris at March 20, 2005 02:15 AM

Chris-Technically you don't ever unlock the navicomputer on the Hawk. T3 will act as the computer for you. You'll need to Peragus charts from the Harbinger, then once you leave Telos, you'll have access to all the needed planets.

Posted by: frinklin at March 20, 2005 01:43 PM

I have a problem with the Handmaiden, she's not talking to me anymore, so i guess there's no chance to make her a jedi now.
Is this a bad thing? I mean, can I still beat the game if she's not a jedi? I'm playing on Normal difficulty.
Thanx for the help!

Posted by: tweeky at March 22, 2005 02:20 PM

Tweek- Don't worry, you can finish the game with or without Handmaiden as a Jedi. And the difficulty level doesn't matter when it comes to influence, which is where your problem lies.
HM won't talk to you because you either have low influence on her, or significantly higher influence with Visas. You need to get influence with her. If she refuses to spar with you, you'll need to do it in-game.

Posted by: frinklin at March 22, 2005 06:12 PM

i need help the second time on Onderon. i am stuck in the room before you enter the main room of queen talia's palace and fight one of the jedi on the council. i have killed the funky monster with the spikes that turned on the sith handlers but the room won't let me enter the main chamber and claims "you cannot leave the battle at this time" all of my party members are alive and i've killed all the enemies but i'm stuck in the F-ing room with no way out.
some help please?

Posted by: JBMara at March 25, 2005 07:17 PM

bastilla appears in a cut scene on telos with carth once u finish the ravenger section, jolee bindos body is on the final planet near a computer consol to the NE i think but i cant find mission or the annoying wookie

Posted by: Just thought i would mention it at March 27, 2005 01:38 PM

Like Tocs I am unable to find a way to get to the Meditation Chamber or the East or West Cells in the Trayus Proving Grounds map. I have run around the entire map clicking on all the walls looking for a secret door or something, but cannot find a way to get to them. I also can't find a way to get to the section that appears to be on the map between the Flophouse and the Hutt warehouse on Nar Shadaa, there are two doors, neither of which opens. If anyone can help me with either of these, please e-mail me, in addition to providing an answer here for others who have the same problem. Thanks.

Posted by: Beelzebubba at March 28, 2005 09:17 PM

Beezlebubba... great name first. You have to remember, not every door is real in the game. Some of them don't open, don't go anywhere. The doors on the nar shadaa docks are like that.

Mara- as long as the Drexl is dead, that sounds like a glitch.

Posted by: frinklin at April 1, 2005 06:22 PM

Ya, ok I have the sith master and the two sith guardian guys in the sith tomb. my people are mira, mandelore, and visas but i cant figuere out how the hell to kill the stupid f-ers.

Posted by: John at April 16, 2005 04:00 PM

If you're powerful enough you can beat Traya without using a single life support pack. This game needs a higher difficulty setting.

Posted by: Dccimbala at April 21, 2005 07:31 PM

I first played through the game trying to max out Strength at all costs. Nowadays I would highly recommend starting with a 14 Constitution and adding 2 points at level ups to a base Constitution of 16. The reason is that base Constitution, unmodified by items, is what is checked to see if an implant can be used ( this is a bug ). At 16 the usable implants are pretty cool, going to 18 is unnecessary IMHO.

Posted by: Dccimbala at April 21, 2005 07:36 PM

Okay, addressing the question by John:

I had trouble with that fight at first. To make it easy, give Visas mastery of Force Storm and go all out with it. In fact, that strategy works for the entire Dxun mission... too easy

Posted by: Dccimbala at April 21, 2005 07:38 PM

Where are the west cells and the meditation chamber in Trayus Academy??, this is ridiculous!

Posted by: Manny Mandingo at April 22, 2005 01:09 PM

So can you actually get past that magnetically sealed door on Goto's ship? If so, I haven't found a way to activate the secondary power that controls it.

Posted by: Haldir at April 23, 2005 09:45 PM

how do I get to HK factory?

Posted by: dragon reborn at May 3, 2005 12:21 PM

To get to the HK factor ask 47 if he knows anything about the sith that are hunting you in the middle of the game. wait for him to ask about your ability to speak different languages... you'll give him a device, and he'll be like "oh this is a tracking device" . . . yada yada yada

Posted by: Manny Mandingo at May 9, 2005 02:27 PM

Manny.. that is supposed to be how you got there, but the HK factory was taken out of the game at the last minute. It was also supposed to explain why GOTO and the remote end up at Malachor at the end.

Posted by: Frinklin at May 9, 2005 05:35 PM

Possible game over glitch,
Stuck on Nar Shadda, earlier in the game, I would get the invite to JJT lounge, after I left the planet for Korriban, I get no invitation into JJT, have a feeling I found a dead end glitch.

Posted by: BT at May 10, 2005 04:41 PM

Can anyone offer any help - I'm stuck in the secret academy in the polar region of telos - I can't free the other members of my party and keep going around in circles.

Posted by: Rob at May 12, 2005 03:41 PM

Well I have notice that several of you ask how to enter meditation room and wect cells on Trayus Acdemy, also a path on Nar Shaddaa that is on the dock section. At fisrt I start investigate how toenter, until I realized that none of them can be accesed. Now you will ask: well if you cant enter, why they are on the game?
Well the only explanation I can give you is that originally they were on the game, but before finishing the game the programmers decide to take out those parts (dont know why) and they only erased the acces to them, so in theory the rooms are still there, but you can reach them, maybe with gameshark or something you will be able to walk through walls or something and reach them

Posted by: Dante at May 15, 2005 06:47 PM

im on goto ship and i have killed every thing but im still missing the program shut down to get to the ebon hawk. i cant find it? i have gotten everthing from the driods in the cells. i also killed one did that make a difference??

Posted by: jake at May 24, 2005 12:31 PM

i have double checked every where no program. is it a glitch? or did me killing one mess everything up? i have been on this for ever and dont know what to do plz help. this is my second character and it never happened like this on the first one idk what to do

Posted by: jake at May 24, 2005 12:34 PM

how do i get the conduit in the peragus docking bay

Posted by: Frankie at May 28, 2005 03:48 PM

Jake you suck

Posted by: Goblos at May 28, 2005 03:50 PM

The Conduit is in the same place you find T3.

Anyone know how to get to that place in Narshadda just above the flop house?

Posted by: Fok at May 29, 2005 09:45 AM

Hey im new. I was just wondering if u could tell me how it is i can see T3's hidden message of bastilla. Cos i tried and he never seems to show me. Closest i got was me realizing he was hiding something. If u could tell me it would help out a lot.

Posted by: Joe at May 29, 2005 10:30 AM

I am stuck near the end of the game. I have been able to get this far without help from anyone....
Now I need your wisdom and guidance. What do I to at Atris' acadamey or whatever it is???
I keep going around and around in circles! I can't open either the turbo lifts or the God forsaken meditation chamber! I don't know what I have to do! Help me please.

Posted by: Allison at May 31, 2005 09:41 AM


In order to see Bastila's hidden message on T3 you need an insanely high repair skill and persuasion skill. You need the maximum amount of influence gained with him. I only managed this by increasinging my skills with cheats.

Posted by: Dance With Pandas at June 1, 2005 04:39 AM


Unfortunately the game is not without its faults, as it was rushed for a xmas release there is a high amount of glitches and uncompleted levels.

As soon as you have defeated Darth Sion this should allow access to Darth Traya in the mediation chamber. The only thing I can suggest is to reload a prevous save and pray the cutscene with Darth Sion will load.

Posted by: Dance With Pandas at June 1, 2005 04:49 AM


I assume you're talking about the area in between the entrance to the flop-house and the entrance to the Vogga the Hutt's place. If so then once again this is one of those annoying things the developers didn't have time to finish because of its early release. I hope they take their time on KotOR III!

Posted by: Dance With Pandas at June 1, 2005 04:55 AM

Thanx. Helps a lot cos now i can concentrate on really developing those skills.

Posted by: Joe at June 1, 2005 01:56 PM

Work on your computer skill as well Joe, through upgrading T3 you gain influence with him. You should see the dialogue option when your skill is high enough.

Posted by: Dance With Pandas at June 2, 2005 02:42 AM

Ok thanx very much for the advice :D

Posted by: Joe at June 2, 2005 05:57 PM

If like me you've played the game through several times and are not happy with the ending, the following text was scripted for the ending but was cut to allow for the game to be released early for xmas.

Its a little jumbled but you should get the idea.

Ok, I've cleaned the stuff provided by Aurora up, trying to make it more reader friendly. I also reordered it so that some scenes make more sense, added some comments regarding which should play depending on whether your character's gender and dark/light side alignment, and put in tentative timings on when they should play. My comments are in >s, and italicized.

Challenging Kreia

{[Gameplay Programmer: DO NOT SCRIPT THIS. Kreia is sitting in the middle of the Trayus Core, meditating.]}

Mira: {Quietly}I say we fire a rocket at her right now, and blow her screaming, burning body into the heart of this planet.

Atton: It wouldn't work- if there were other distractions, maybe, if she wasn't telepathic, maybe. If you want to kill her like that, you need something else to occupy her attention, otherwise you might just wound her. And then we'd all be in trouble.

Disciple/Handmaiden: This battle will not be decided by weapons.

Visas: You are wrong. Manipulation is Kreia's strength, not battle. We have a chance... we just have to figure out how to make use of it. Let us see what transpires... and plan our attack.{[Gameplay Programmer: Pauses, looks around, realizes that Atton is gone.]}{[Gameplay Programmer: Fight between Atton and Kreia, short, quick, brutal.]}

Mira: {With weapon at the ready}We've come a long way, Kreia... don't bother getting up.

Kreia: {Indulgent, doesn't move}Ah, the huntress. To come alone... you are braver than I thought.

Disciple/Handmaiden: She is not alone. We stand with her. And with her, stand all the Jedi.{Strides in, behind other Jedi, lightsaber raised}

Atton: And now I come in, saying something suitably heroic.

Kreia: {Mild contempt, doesn't even bother getting up}Children with lightsabers... {smiles contemptuously, beat}but not Jedi, I think.

Kreia: {[Gameplay Programmer: Kreia gets up.]}Come close, let me look upon you and see what the exile's teaching has forged.

Kreia: {[Gameplay Programmer: Looks across the "heroes," camera pans across them - just do a series of close ups if we have no animated camera]}An assassin, a slayer of her own kin, a blinded slave... and a fool.{Indulgent}Which of you wishes to try yourselves against me? As you can see, I am unarmed.

Kreia: You, perhaps? Come, child, where you walk, it is not far from battle, slaughter, and the blood of your sisters.

Kreia: Come, boy, face me now - do not make this one of the many battles you have run from.

{[Disciple/Handmaiden attacks, Kreia barely moves, deftly avoiding every blow, then gets bored, and grabs the Handmaiden/Disciple by the throat, or in a Force Crush.]}

Think. Think before you throw away your life for him. Think of everything you will lose by dying.Your lusts unfulfilled. A dance, unfinished. A love, requited. Think before you give it up so quickly.

Think. Think before you throw away your life for her. Think of everything you will lose by dying. A love, requited. A hope of another life, beyond the shadow of the Jedi. {Beat before last sentence}Think before you give it up so quickly.

Kreia: {[Gameplay Programmer: Kreia turns to Visas.]}And you, blind one, you have hungered to strike me down ever since you saw the bond the exile and I share.

Visas: Can you feel the Force running through me, even past the veil, past your bloodied eyes? You know you cannot win. The Force runs strong within you, Traya, but in the howling of a storm, it is difficult to hear the whisper of the blade. You have forever been the blind one. You were given a gift few are ever given, and yet you let your gift of sight warp you, tw-

Kreia: {[Calm, like a surgeon, Kreia does Force Crush, lifting Visas up.]}You think your existence under your Lord was torture, Miraluka? I will make you see.{[Pause as Visas lies, collapsed.]}

Kreia: {Turns to Mira} And you. You were stronger than I thought - to spare the beast that wished to kill you. I felt it, faintly, even here on Malachor. Come, huntress. You have tracked me so far and killed many beasts to be here. Come, huntress. You have tracked me so far. Cast away your past for this moment.

Kreia: And now... at last, the fool. You only delay the inevitable. You have been difficult to sense before... but not now. You can cloak your mind only for so long. It is only a matter of coaxing the right thought to the surface. Your desire to protect the Jedi... and the hope that will kill the guilt inside you.

Kreia: He will fall before me, you know. And when I am done with him, I will watch as he murders you with the Force.

Kreia: It is only a matter of coaxing the right thought to the surface. Your desire to protect the Jedi... and the hope that she truly cares about you...She will fall before me, you know. And when I am done with her, she will view you with all the contempt I do for a murderer such as you.

Kreia: And that is the last of them. Take them. They are strong in the Force... and they will have their uses. I will remain here and await the one who comes.

Atton torture/death/love:

{[Cut to a scene of Sion's face, smiling.]}{[Sion advances through the halls. Atton comes to face him, looking a little sheepish. Darth Sion draws his blade against Atton.] }

Sion: And I get the fool.

Atton: Funny - that's just what I was thinking.{[Gameplay Programmer: Sion levitates Atton into the air, holding him in place.]}

{[At the end, Sion cuts off his arm, then leaves Atton on the ground, writhing in pain but Atton staggers to his feet, still wounded. Sion stops, turns.]}

Atton: {Weakly, just had hand cut off}Running away? I'm not done with you yet.

Sion: Nor I you. {Levitates Atton}I will remake you. So when I look upon you it shall be like a mirror. Then I shall let you die.

Atton: There's... nothing worse you can do to me. Take your time.

{[Gameplay Programmer: Player walks down the path, sees Atton's crumpled body. Player kneels, Atton's choked voice, dying. Atton's words slur a bit in places because of the pain, and his voice should get weaker all the way until the end.]}

Atton: You're... alive. Did... I... save you yet?Your eyes... {sees player's horrified expression}that bad, eh? {Turns away, quiet}Always was ugly.... now the outside matches. Was waiting for this, but...S' not fair... let you down...

1. Atton, hold on, I can still help you.
2. Shhh... you've lost a lot of blood.
3. Yes. Be still.
4. Malachor touched all of us. We all died there, and the echo kept traveling. It just took a while to reach us.

Atton: {winces, in pain}was s'posed to save you. S' tired of living anyway... too many deaths... {winces, a little quieter}never told you... lied to you...{Dry chuckle}

1. I think we all saved each other.... Visas, the Handmaiden, Kreia. And you, Atton.
2. I think we were all supposed to save each other.... Visas, the Handmaiden, Kreia. And you, Atton.
3. You did, Atton. You fought bravely, and I could not ask for a greater sacrifice.

Atton: {Laugh dies, Pained, humiliated, doesn't want the player to see him dying}I don't want you to see me like this. I don't want to die in front of you. Can't bear it. Loved you from the moment I first saw you, thought you were a dream......meant every word... tried to play it off as a joke... wasn't funny...

1. All that was your past is forgiven, Atton. Be still.
2. You never needed to tell me, Atton. I knew.
3. If you're trying to get rid of me, it's not working.
4. There is no death, Atton. There is only the Force.
5. No. I will stay with you until the end comes.

Atton: {Dry chuckle}Hurts when I laugh. Hurts...You... saved me... joke's on me...{Dry chuckle, winces}Hurts when I laugh. Hurts...{[Gameplay Programmer: Atton doesn't turn as he says the above sentence.]}

{[Slow fade of the sound below as the camera pulls back. Adam, this animation request has been fired off to the animators.]}

Atton, warped to the darkside, attacks Disciple:

{[Disciple walks into the room, looking around. As he looks around, Atton steps from behind him, in a creepy, yet casual way.]}

Atton: Hey, kid.

Disciple: {Initially relieved}Atton... the exile, where is she?

Atton: {Shrugs, but evil}She's safe, you don't need to worry about her. You never did, really. You know how long it's been since I killed a Jedi? You get a taste for it, you know. I killed a bunch here on Malachor, while the planet was dying.

Atton: Killing a half-Jedi like you should hold me over until the next one comes along. They always do, you know.

Disciple: {Firm}Atton, Kreia is using y- {"using you"}

Atton: Really? I had no idea. Everyone uses each other, kid. And if she's using me to kill you, as I see it, I really don't lose anything.I already lost what mattered to me. I wanted to protect her, to help her, and then you show up, playing hero. Fine.

Disciple: {Firm}Atton, the feelings between the exile and I...

Atton: Doesn't matter, not anymore. I had forgotten how much I hate Jedi. And the less of you that are in the galaxy, the better.Ready to die, kid?

Disciple: {Firm}I won't fight you, Atton.

Atton:I don't care - I just want you to die.{[Atton draws his weapon at the end.]}{[Starts advancing toward Disciple]}

Disciple: {[Gets into ready stance.]}

Visas fighting Handmaidens:

{[Gameplay Programmer: Have a scene where Visas is walking amongst the corridors of the Academy.]}{She stops, waits for a moment, draws her blade, as the corrupted Handmaidens step from the shadows, like Darth Vader when Luke is going down beneath Bespin. She'll draw her blade.}

Handmaiden: A Sith stalking amongst the Sith. Your kind fear each other, betrayers and murderers, all.

Visas: Sister of the Echani, you must listen to me. Kreia is using your feeling ag...

Handmaiden: Be silent. I have listened to you corrupt others... the exile... with your words. I have seen you erode his will, bit by bit, over our journey until he echoes your corruption. {Trying to be challenging, but pained} And because of you, I have lost one for whom I cared deeply.

Visas: You must listen to me.

Handmaiden: No. There will be no more words between us{[The two draw weapons as the screen fades to black.]}


Handmaiden/Visas: You are leaving? I... I would come with you, if you will allow it.

Player?: No, I require you to stay here, at the Trayus Core, and train others, as Kreia trained me. You... cannot come with me. I need someone to stay here at the edge of known space, and show others the way. I need someone to show them the way. As Kreia showed me the way.

Handmaiden/Visas: Others? What do you mean?

Player?: Kreia spoke of Revan, and another war that waits beyond the Outer Rim. You must gather forces here, and wait. Yes, others will come. And you must train them until they are ready to pass on to the next war.

Handmaiden/Visas: Others?I... shall do as you ask. I shall train others who will follow.{Quietly, knows the answer is never} When will you return? I will do as you ask. If it is important to you, I shall see it through. Your journey... will you return?

Player?: Where I go, I cannot take anyone I care for. You must remain, for others will come.

{[Gameplay Programmer: Player walks off, in silence, and keeps walking toward the Trayus Core, and is gone. The Handmaiden (or Visas) watches the player for a time, without saying anything.]}

{[As the player walks off the Core, Atton is leaning against a pillar, off to the side.]}

Atton: {Trying to be casual, but wants to go with the player}Need any company? {Beat, casual}I mean, I'm not doing anything. Besides, if I'm not around to bail you out of trouble, who knows what could happen.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at June 9, 2005 09:13 AM

when i fight the 5 hand maidens in the polar region, what is there to gain? Will they teach me anything? Can I get any of the artifacts that are spoken of there? when do i get my first and very own light saber?

Posted by: ran at June 13, 2005 12:14 PM


When you beat all five you get 750xp. Thats it I'm afraid.

You get your first lightsaber when you construct one.

1 - Hilt: Is given to you by chobo hat / czerka corp when you complete their missios.

2 - Energy Fixture: Is given to you when yoju defeat Visas Marr (you need to be at 75% light side or 75% dark side for this to happen).

3 - Lens: Is given to you in the Flop House by Lootra (I think). You can either kill him for it or do the mission where you go find his wife in the refugee sector.

After you have all these components keep talking to Bao-dur about creating a light saber and a dialogue option will become available.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at June 15, 2005 04:29 AM

what the frig how do i get past iziz?

Posted by: dorko at June 17, 2005 02:58 PM

were can i get master robes on kotor 2

Posted by: dave at June 18, 2005 01:48 AM

I can't get over how long the debate goes about Revan being man/woman/good/bad... there is no listing in the SW Databank, so it's up to you...

As for Iziz, what are you trying to do? Is this your first time or second time around? Have you solved the murder yet? I'm betting that's where your stuck. It's time-consuming and dull, but talk to everyone you can in the cantina. They'll eventually tell you that there used to be a serving droid there,but it was destroyed. Find the parts in the trash and the head from the droid dealer in the courtyard. Once you have that, you're home-free.

Master robes, like everything else in this game are totally random. You are guaranteed of getting Master Robes by killing Kavar, Vrook or Sion. Beyond that it's random. You have better luck the higher your level is.

Posted by: frinklin at June 18, 2005 10:27 AM

how do u get past the 3 hk50 droids?

Posted by: Frank at June 20, 2005 10:46 PM

Which ones Frank? The ones on Nal Shadda when your're T3 or the ones on top of the mountain in the North Polar Region of Atrius's accadamy.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at June 22, 2005 01:03 AM

Hmmm... right after i finish killing all assassins on Goto's ship i head to the ebon hawk and it shows me leave the ship on ebon hawk. Then it takes me to the inside of ebon hawk but only krei (whatever old lady) and Goto are there and i cant exit the ship or look at galaxy map- what do i do?

Posted by: JJ at June 25, 2005 07:39 PM

might be a glitch b ecause i saved on the ship and i cant load it- it freezes on load screen bah what should i do?

Posted by: JJ at June 25, 2005 07:42 PM

i have beaten kotorII and i am on my second time. after i finished nar shadda i went back to the ship and there was a cutscene were hm argues with visas. when i talk to hand maiden no matter what i say she tells me that our relationship is over and everytime i speak to her after that she says that there is nothing to discuss. please help me figure out how to get hm to start talking to me agian. I have 100 influence with her and i completed the planets in this order : telos,korriban,narshadda

Posted by: jared at June 27, 2005 07:48 PM

i also have heard a rumor that kreia is bastilla, this would make sense since she has the same hairstyle and she said that she trained reven

Posted by: jared at June 27, 2005 07:50 PM

JJ unfortunately it sounds like a glitch. Whenn you enter the ebon hawk from Goto's yacht you should see a cutscene showing your escape. The only thing I can suggest is that you reload a previous save.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at June 28, 2005 01:01 AM


Bastilla is not Kreia, if you select Revan as good and male at the start of the game you will see Bastilla later on talking to Carth.

With rregards to HM unfortunately theres no way to undue the conversation choices you made earlier, like all women she gets the hump pretty easily.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at June 28, 2005 01:07 AM

Hey i am stuck on goto's ship and keep getting blown up by the mine things what do i do?

Posted by: Aj Roland at July 5, 2005 11:07 AM

You can disable the mines with a code from one of the droids that attacks you. You know the section before the area with 20+ mines its shaped roughly like a semicirle and i think it has 3/4 droids patrolling the hallway. Once you destroy them take the codes from the remains go to one of the many terminals upload the code and deactivate the mines. If you're any good at demolotions try to retrieve the mines instead of destroying them, you get a savage amount of xp for everyone you retrieve.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at July 7, 2005 04:15 AM

Um...when ever I try to talk to Atton, the only options I get ,no matter what his influence is, is if he wants to play Pazak???

And does anyone know any other places one can find thorium charges besides on Korriban?

Posted by: Elizabeth Lestrad at July 7, 2005 11:54 PM

ON Dantooine, in the Enclave, where do i find the body with the will on it ? I cant find it!
And after that, if im LS, who should i give the will to?

Posted by: John at July 10, 2005 10:08 AM

so is it possible to get inside of Atris' chamber??? and how do i get the handmaiden to join my team. i have already defeated the 5 handmaidens and talked to the last one about the artifacts.

Posted by: wedge at July 10, 2005 04:09 PM


Go to Nar Shadaa with Atton and travel to the refugee sector. Two Twileks will approach you about Atton's past there and tell you a little story about him. Once they are finished approach Atton and follow the dialogue options until he starts discussing about wanting to become a Jedi. It takes some time to get this and you may have to keep pushing him but don't give up on the conversation until the very end. You have to have a fair bit of influence with him to do this as well.

With regards to the thorium charges I know one of the traders sells them but to be honest I've forgotten which one.

Posted by: Dances With Pandas at July 11, 2005 12:59 AM

is it possible to gain influence with bao dur when you are on the ebon hawk? mid-game, I tried talking to him and the only conversational options i got were 'never mind, ill be going now'

Posted by: bultar swan at July 11, 2005 10:55 AM

I'm stuck on Nar Shadaa I'v done every side quest that can be done, the red eclipse haven't appeared on on the ebon hawk yet and until they do I cant progress to meeting G0-T0, etc! Is it a clitch in the game or is there some way of rectifying it as I have load previous games and restarted yet it still does the same thing please can someone help!!


Posted by: Matt at July 12, 2005 03:58 PM

Ugh, I've been stuck on the ship where u kill Dark Nihilus and i beat him and i got the 3 proton charges ready to blow and ive got the 4th charge out of the missle thingy but i just dont know where to place it at...I could of swore ive looked everywhere possible

Posted by: Brent at July 15, 2005 04:37 PM

Dances With Pandas,

This is really late, heh, but That post you made about the ending being cut out for the game to come out in time for xmas, OH MY GOD! That would have been a soooo much of a better ending. *sigh*. I love Atton's character so much. *mumbles curses* Stupid people and their cutting out the best parts...

Posted by: Silent Diamonds at July 15, 2005 10:11 PM

How do i beat Kreia on Malachor 5 a the end of the game

Posted by: Jefffery Hammonds rules at July 24, 2005 05:36 PM

ok im on nar shadarr and ive done killing the bad guys in the refugee sector and getting this woman back to her husban and one of the fassa the dockmasters missions but how do you get the family in the refugee sector a pilot fassa says to talk to vogga about it but he just say go away

Posted by: Brodie at July 25, 2005 09:07 AM

Im still on the ravenger Ive been through the cut seen with one of the bombs blowing up and so malodore says we need to make a new one so i went to the missle room and took the proton core out i went to the work bench after but i didnt know what to do there.

P.S. it would be great if someone told me because ive spent 5 days with no sleep playing it thx!

Posted by: Charlie at July 26, 2005 05:17 PM

I have huge problems with defeating visas on the Ebon hawk... I just got off Telos, and i'm on Dantooine ( Just got outa the crystal cave, and talked to the merchinaries ) now i can chose to fight master Vrook ( I'm DS ) and he seems to be all but possible to defeat, since he can allmost kill me in one hit... then i tryed to go to my ship, so Bao-dur, could help me build my Lightsaber, then Visas comes, and attacks me.. I had her down on half HP once, but then she kills me... Someone help me?! How do i kill her WITHOUT a lightsaber?! Could need some help w/ master Vrook aswell...

Please E-mail me, at

Posted by: Bona preis at July 28, 2005 04:50 AM

im on nar shadar and i need help where do i find the password for the pazzak ben?
i have beten game allredy what the f#^% cant find pass word please help me

Posted by: kyle at July 31, 2005 07:08 PM

nvm about last massege where do i find the pass word iv tried negotiating with the thug but he wont lrt me in
p.s help

Posted by: kyle at July 31, 2005 07:20 PM

where do u get the pass word for the pazzak den help me piz or how do u get in??????????????????????????????????????????/\

Posted by: kyle at July 31, 2005 07:22 PM

how do u get aaida u now the 1 in the refugee camp well any way out of the camp lol

Posted by: kyle at July 31, 2005 11:04 PM

Hi Dances With Pandas.
I would just like to thank you for the ending scrypt.
I thought Atton was a great character and was really diappointed by the short ending.
Do you think they'll put the long ending on the game or there really is no hope?

Posted by: Gee at August 12, 2005 11:12 AM

where do i get the second voice pattern on the first plannet? i got the 1 from the security desk but i cant find te other 1.

Posted by: khz at August 12, 2005 12:22 PM

For those who thought the game was not well finished, there is a petition going on at
You search for ''Pétitions ´Finalisez KOTOR 2´''
and click on the fist link you see.

Posted by: Gee at August 13, 2005 10:41 AM

Hi Kyle!
To get Aaida out I think you have to talk to the blue alien near the landing pad. You have to help him first though.

Posted by: Gee at August 14, 2005 04:16 AM

To get in the pazaak den, talk to the mouse and give him some credits.

Posted by: Gee at August 14, 2005 04:19 AM

Could someone help me with Telos - Secret Academy. I can't free my friends. One of the Handmaiden told me that I can free them by myself but when I tried to speek with Kreia nothing happens. I can't do anything at all. Pls. help.

Posted by: Sitevnic at August 21, 2005 01:09 PM

I fix it by myself. There was a bug in KOTOR 2, so I had to reinstal game without any path and back one save before entering Telos - Secret Academy. Then I found that my friends were taken to jail.

Posted by: Sitevnic at August 22, 2005 04:04 AM

to all that can't free his/her allies in telos secret academy.. fight the droids, then proceed to the academy, when handmaiden asks you to surrender your weapon, don't rush to surrender! use the other option first, which is something like asking why.. then cooperate! that solved my problem.. ,interesting

Posted by: muNis at September 9, 2005 01:25 PM

i need to know wat the awncers are for the little sith tombs puzles can 1 of u guys help me out? ill send u a picture of me

Posted by: rachawa at September 15, 2005 04:11 PM

helow? n e 1 ther?

Posted by: rachawa at September 15, 2005 04:12 PM

Um,... Hi.
Kotor 2 is my favorite game. I was wondering if you knew where the last yellow pazak card is. i have got the tiebreaker, the doubler, the 3&6 value changer and the 2&4 value changer but i want to know what and how to get the other one is. Could you help? If so then thanx.

Posted by: Josh at September 17, 2005 04:48 PM

I you would like you can email me at or go to my website at

Posted by: Josh at September 17, 2005 04:53 PM

Oh. the answers.
1. freedon nadd
2. twenty
3. gizka
4. i always lie
5. passion, strength, power, victory.
There you go

Posted by: Josh at September 17, 2005 04:57 PM

After i was gased by mira, so she goes to visit saquesh instead of me. i am woken up by the lost jedi, after he is gone, i can't seem to go back into hekk'jekk' tar, why is that, am i supposed to not be able to. because theres nothing else for me to do, and the jedi told me to follow him

Posted by: JON J at October 4, 2005 12:20 PM

are you sure its jekk jekk tar you are trying to enter?

Posted by: Josh at October 10, 2005 03:05 AM

hey, does anyone know EXACTLY how to get the hidden hologram from T3? ive gotten all the upgrades on him and ive meditated with him like 10 times. still no hologram.

Posted by: PhoenixGate at October 11, 2005 10:01 PM

Not a single idea! i might have that answer in about a week. ill get to work on it.

Posted by: Josh at October 12, 2005 01:06 AM

oh, thank heaven, someone actually willing to help out. you have no idea what a livesaver you are. *googlie eyes*

Posted by: PhoenixGate at October 13, 2005 11:00 PM

no prob

Posted by: Josh at October 14, 2005 04:43 AM

i think im close. ill get back to you when i get it

Posted by: Josh at October 19, 2005 02:23 AM

cool. have fun! and thnx again!

Posted by: PhoenixGate at October 19, 2005 07:35 PM

sorry about the delay. anyway, i got it. first, your computer skill needs to be higher than ten. when that is so, you can ask say to t3, "youre deliberately avoiding answering. why?" after the desusion that you have with t3, and if your computer skill is higher than 15, you can talk about revan with t3. thats when you get the hologram. the outcome all depends with what you said about revan to atton on peragus.

Posted by: Josh at October 23, 2005 03:30 AM

you have a discussion with T3?

Posted by: PhoenixGate at October 23, 2005 02:05 PM

also, what order did you visit the planets in?

Posted by: PhoenixGate at October 28, 2005 07:06 PM

sorry that iv been away. i regret that i dont have a clue. i got that out of my gameguide. sorry i couldnot be anymore help. i even tryed it out myself and nothing. sorry.

Posted by: Josh at November 1, 2005 09:39 PM

that's ok, you've been a big help already. anyway i dont think it really matters what order you visit the planets in.

Posted by: PhoenixGate at November 6, 2005 12:50 PM
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